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Juicey Shake · Jun 24, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

@Hanego: another one for ya

Reefclaw Ragebound

pretty easy, hardest part is pulling him before he aggros on the outcasts.
I used 2xtouch, Oob, dirt, whirling, reflex, SIG OF AGONY, PLAGUE TOUCH

Didn't really need the dodge's to get to him.

I believe jacqui the reaver [also in this zone] would be easily farmable, same as merki-- but the patrols are weird, trying to figure out how to time it best.

clarianaeneas · Jun 24, 2006, 01:12 AM // 01:12

hmmm How do you recover from the damage Reefclaw does? I tried killing him today, and he took me out as soon as he got two hits in (which shouldnt take too long even with whirling/dodge/zojun's on).

Juicey Shake · Jun 24, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47

whirling/dodge/zojun's on --- uhm what? you dare to tank a warrior boss with dodge up? ^^...

Basically, do this, [with build I posted] -- it should be him vs you, NO PATROLS.

vamp him, time your reflex to just stop his first attack, do 1 more vamp with ~2.5s between, then use sig of agony, plague it to him, do 3-4 vamps as needed to get your HP up, whirling as reflex ends, vamp, OoB, vamp slowly managing your en [keep it around 8 or so, 5e for your vamps and 5e for oob so manage it well- oob hurts vs him time it well]

use throw dirt as whirling ends, keep your vamps at a slow pace, you reapply poison [sig of agony, plague touch] and then a few vamps. he should die just as lightning reflex is back up [which coincides with the duration of throw dirt ending] or a few seconds after.

hope this helps, i tried it w/o sig and plague touch [and 2x dodge] and it just doesn't cut it, you need that extra degen on him 'cause his damage output is gruesome, his hits go through a lot and almost always 100+

I use a plagueborne sword w/ +5e but I think I'm gunna put a +7vs phys grip on it for bosses like him, .. or just hp 30, heh.

pork soldier · Jun 24, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00

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Originally Posted by Vexed Arcanist

The best set for a touch ranger is Gordac's set. 2x20% faster recharge, +17 total energy, +1 Blood 20%. The 20% faster cast on Milth's staff is a waste, unless you got to get OoB under 1/4 cast time....

Gordac's set doesn't affect skills, only spells ..so that bonus is wasted on this build, unless you really have to have a 36% chance to fast-recast oob.

edit: now that I think about it, that's not a bad thing ..

Bloodied Blade · Jun 25, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake

whirling/dodge/zojun's on --- uhm what? you dare to tank a warrior boss with dodge up? ^^...

Basically, do this, [with build I posted] -- it should be him vs you, NO PATROLS.

vamp him, time your reflex to just stop his first attack, do 1 more vamp with ~2.5s between, then use sig of agony, plague it to him, do 3-4 vamps as needed to get your HP up, whirling as reflex ends, vamp, OoB, vamp slowly managing your en [keep it around 8 or so, 5e for your vamps and 5e for oob so manage it well- oob hurts vs him time it well]

use throw dirt as whirling ends, keep your vamps at a slow pace, you reapply poison [sig of agony, plague touch] and then a few vamps. he should die just as lightning reflex is back up [which coincides with the duration of throw dirt ending] or a few seconds after.

hope this helps, i tried it w/o sig and plague touch [and 2x dodge] and it just doesn't cut it, you need that extra degen on him 'cause his damage output is gruesome, his hits go through a lot and almost always 100+

I use a plagueborne sword w/ +5e but I think I'm gunna put a +7vs phys grip on it for bosses like him, .. or just hp 30, heh.

Just for future reference: Signet of Agony does not poison you. The explosion is green, but it causes bleed. A lot of people think "Death Nova" and think that it poisons (I know I did my first time) you.

Juicey Shake · Jun 25, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

right, I meant bleed as I said originally plague the bleeding to him.

was chatting on vent about some tainted flesh thumper degen build while typing, lol ^^

Hanego Ategeh · Jun 25, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by pork soldier

Gordac's set doesn't affect skills, only spells ..so that bonus is wasted on this build, unless you really have to have a 36% chance to fast-recast oob.

edit: now that I think about it, that's not a bad thing ..

Gordac's works on skills, I believe.

OoB recyle is important, but staying alive is more important, and you can only use OoB if the fight is fairly under control anyway, or you run a high risk of death if you use it at inopportune moment.

My comments above address this issue from my personal experience, which some may find valuable in doing what I and others have done.

I welcome further feedback on the gear recommendations.

Hanego Ategeh · Jun 26, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

-Added Reefclaw again. Not particularly challenging fight if packing 2x vamp, 2x stance (WD, LR), TD, SoA, PT, OoB.

Juicey's tactics worked very well.

DeanBB · Jun 26, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Has anyone used this in Tyria? Any recommended targets to try?

lennymon · Jun 26, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

since I'm ranger, I want to try some ranger bosses, anyone tried? I'll try Ryver Mossplanter in arborstone/chkkr in drazach/chehbaba in qinkai tonight and post back

Hanego Ategeh · Jun 27, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by lennymon

since I'm ranger, I want to try some ranger bosses, anyone tried? I'll try Ryver Mossplanter in arborstone/chkkr in drazach/chehbaba in qinkai tonight and post back

I went to Ryver's spot but he wasn't there because I had 'Song and Stone' active.

Chehbaba was hard solo - took such a long time that I gave up, got henchies and smoked him, because I was just after a cap at that point.

Lorelle kicked my butt the first times I tried her and I avoided her after that. Might check again.

Think that's it. None made it on the list as yet.

To answer the other question, RebelHero used this build vs. Behemoths in the Falls. I don't know of others though.

lennymon · Jun 27, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

so I got Chehbaba solo 2nd time got bow, but ended up going back with a guildy (same build) was fun with 2. Basically I ended up pulling everything and killing, using walls for cover as I took warriors, then rits, then rangers last.
edit: oh yeah, solo took roughly 15-20 minutes, duo 5.

http://loptastru.org/chehbaba.jpg
was easier swapping zojun's for plague touch also later to get rid of poison/cripple so I could run if needed
but basically thats it. just pull and kill warriors around a corner then dodge in after one at a time after regen/recharge.

Hanego Ategeh · Jun 27, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

Cool, grats on Chehbaba. With that time it falls into hard category. Until I try it, I don't want to officially rate it.

For the record, the reason I chose time as the metric is that this is about farming, and I figured more chances of drops = more money for people using it.

Hope it's been helpful to people.

I won't be around for a while to check on how the thread is going but there are some people better at using this build than I am reading this thread anyway.

Good luck, and I will check back in a while.

lennymon · Jun 27, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Thanks for the idea to use this build by the way, I hadn't thought of it and had been using a LOT for AB.
I tried Sskai also with no luck - hes got to many attacks which ignore stances. I may try another mod tonight but pure trapper + distracting shot(heal sig) would likely work.
For Merki the reaver, it wasn't terribly difficult, and killed first try, but it took me a litlle longer than necessary while I learned patrols. I tend to play it safe and clear the area first also - like I killed 4 krakens, the 5 carps at shrine, and about 20 outcasts lol. After all that, no shield, but I can do again faster now that I know area - Id say plague touch optional on this area though to pack another run.
Razajan or whatever I tried getting to after (only had dodge/lightning/whirling) and couldnt do it but I certainly wasn't built for long run since my main target was Merki. Only made it as far as shrouded oni.

Chehbaba could likely be done faster with a perfected build by running past all the other guys and getting into corner in the pocket, but I was just going for success, I'll try to tweak this weekend.

Bloodied Blade · Jun 28, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

^^

You can probably duo Sskai with Throw Dirt since the blind should stop most of his attacks.

lennymon · Jun 28, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

I got Jacqui the reaver down now also, just run around the first group of outcasts if they aggro reefclaws group, or take them out if they dont
(sins, then warriors, then everything else) then activate Jacqui's group wait till he comes over to where reefclaw's gang is and finish him off.
http://loptastru.org/jacqui.jpg

nova_lyphe · Jun 28, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

Ok, so im new to this type of build, even though ive played my Ranger the most and im really struggling to kill some of the bosses you have down as easy. For example - Lian.

I can take out the 2 groups of Knights fairly easily, and am just running out of energy by the time i kill the third one in each group. I try to lure Lian away from the group but they just follow, and if i try to take on the group as a whole, i end up mush in no time at all.

So im wondering if i must be doing something wrong, i have Rajazan's Fervor and a Blood Knife as well as a longbow, but just cant seem to conquer them. (Apart from Craw, he's easy)

Any advice would be great.

RebelHero · Jun 28, 2006, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Farming in Tyria:
- Root Behemoths and Wind Riders can be soloed for the new greens. Lure the stupid little healers away one by one and kill them, then kill the behemoths. As for the Wind Riders, just run in, kill one, two or maybe 3 and run out to recharge.
- Mighty and Barbed Grawls cannot be soloed as far as I know. Simply because massive hexes and supreme numbers grind you to pulp in no time. A Touch ranger is most effective where the amount of damage that can be dealt to her in 1 second (1 standard attack) is equal to or smaller than 1/4 of the total damage of all combined enemies fighting you. So if you would aggro one grawl, there will be 10 mighty grawls after you, you could shield most barbed grawl from attacking you with building. So basically 10 grawls + life degen 3 and barbs (10 damage extra on each hit) This adds up to about 40 damage each hit. Times ten equals 400 damage each second, divided by 4 (stances) is 100 damage each second, add the degen and its 106 damage. No way you can outheal that with a touch ranger.
- Lian, Block the casters from behind the wall so their attacks cant reach you, then kill the knights. Run away and regen, run back in to kill the ritualist and the mesmer, maybe the mage. Run out and regen again then head back in for the final kill.

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So im wondering if i must be doing something wrong, i have Rajazan's Fervor and a Blood Knife as well as a longbow, but just cant seem to conquer them. (Apart from Craw, he's easy)

I stay by my first comment that in my opinion Milthurans Staff is the best option for Touch Rangers, at least the best cheap option. You can solo him because he is just too easy. The 20/20 mods dont help you much, but it does add +1 to Blood 20% of the time.

lennymon · Jun 29, 2006, 12:24 AM // 00:24

the 20% recharge/+5v50 collector pronged wand with 20/20 collector blood knife offhand is another almost as good option for the slighter greater energy you will have as a result of the dual recharge at the loss of only 3 points of max energy and +1 20%. When you get low on health (hey it happens) at least the +5 energy kicks in, might save you... but hey it IS basically free.

Hanego Ategeh · Jun 30, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by nova_lyphe

Ok, so im new to this type of build, even though ive played my Ranger the most and im really struggling to kill some of the bosses you have down as easy. For example - Lian.

I can take out the 2 groups of Knights fairly easily, and am just running out of energy by the time i kill the third one in each group. I try to lure Lian away from the group but they just follow, and if i try to take on the group as a whole, i end up mush in no time at all.

So im wondering if i must be doing something wrong, i have Rajazan's Fervor and a Blood Knife as well as a longbow, but just cant seem to conquer them. (Apart from Craw, he's easy)

Any advice would be great.

You're not running any enchantments so Rajazan's is just a 5 EN sword to you. I would suggest adding relevant mods to a crafted sword or getting a collector item or something.